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The final question at this debate was posed to both the Christian and Muslim speaker. The question was in accordance with the following verse of the Qur’an:
“Come let us call our sons and your sons, our women and your women, ourselves and yourselves, then we pray and invoke the curse of Allah upon those who lie.” [Qur'an 3:61]
Many misunderstood the question. The request was not for any of the speakers to send out curses upon each other, but rather to pray to God for Him to curse those who are the liars.
Smith (the Christian Speaker), perhaps as to be expected, refused to accept this challenge. Why? He (and others in the audience) hid behind the banner that, as a Christian, he was not allowed to curse due to his religion not permitting it. We find this hard to accept when we read that the Bible has the following to say:
Jesus Curses the Fig-Tree:
“In the morning, as they went along, they saw the fig-tree withered from the roots. Peter remembered and said to Jesus: ‘Rabbi, look! The fig-tree you cursed is withered’.” [Mark 11:20-21]
Noah Curses Canaan:
“He (Noah) said, ‘Cursed be Canaan! The lowest of the slaves will he be to his brothers.’” [Genesis 9:25]
An Angel Curses Meroz:
“Curse Meroz, said the angel of the Lord. Curse its people bitterly, because they did not come to help the Lord.” [Judges 5:23]
Peter Curses Himself:
“Then he (Peter) began to call down curses on himself and he swore to them: ‘I don’t know the man.’” [Matthew 26:74]
God Curses the Wicked:
“The Lord’s curse is on the house of the wicked, but he blesses the home of the righteous.” [Proverbs 3:33]
God Warns the Priests of His Curse:
“And now this admonition is for you, O priests. If you do not listen, and if you do not set your heart to honour my name, says the Lord Almighty. I will send a curse upon you and I will curse your blessings. Yes, I have already cursed them, because you have not set your heart to honour me.” [Malachi 2:1-2]
We might therefore ask: If, in the Bible, God curses, Noah curses, an Angel curses, and Jesus is prepared to curse, who is it then that the Christian’s claim to be following when they ert that they are neither permitted nor are they prepared to curse? Certainly, they are not following any of the aforementioned, nor the Bible!
“Truth has come and falsehood has vanished. Surely, falsehood is ever bound to vanish.” [Qur'an 17:81]

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#1

The Quran came in …
The Quran came in arabic…God came in Person.

TheNarniaLampPost wrote on November 23, 2008 - 2:45 am
#2

A Christian takes …
A Christian takes the very challenge mentioned in the Quran itself.

He takes the “curse” of Allah:

watch?v=PZHbnpj_2Ag

He’s still living, and there is NO doubt that Allah is too weak to make good on his threats.

YHWHisElohim wrote on November 23, 2008 - 2:45 am
#3

Why did Jesus curse …
Why did Jesus curse the fig tree? When fig leaves appear, there are small pieces which can be eaten. If these do not appear, there will be no figs from the tree for the year.
Jesus cursing the fig tree was also a sign.
So Jesus did not set is as an example for us to curse.
You have taken the scripture totally out of context.
So no, we do not curse.
Let us also look at Proverb above. The wicked do invite a curse or a better word is Judgement upon themselves.
God is Just.

Gfingers08 wrote on November 23, 2008 - 2:45 am
#4

You do curse, the …
You do curse, the Bible tells us that Jesus cursed a fig tree ? you want the verse let me know

MuslimByChoice wrote on November 23, 2008 - 2:45 am
#5

“The Lord’s curse …
“The Lord’s curse is on the house of the wicked, but he blesses the home of the righteous.”Proverbs 3:33
Who cursed the Fig tree because it donest give fruit out of season unnaturally?
“He (Noah) said, ‘Cursed be Canaan! The lowest of the slaves will he be to his brothers.’” Genesis 9:25

ALAMINUK wrote on November 23, 2008 - 2:45 am
#6

‘What God has …
‘What God has cursed, He cannot bless, and what God has blessed no man can curse’
That is why we do not curse!!!
If you are seeking a sign then pray saying
The God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob. Reveal yourself to me.
(if you pray to allah you are dialing the wrong number and you will get no response)
Go on, I dare you!!

Gfingers08 wrote on November 23, 2008 - 2:45 am
#7

For God did not …
For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him.
We don’t want to curse you. We want to bless you. That is the difference between Islam and Christianity.

Gfingers08 wrote on November 23, 2008 - 2:45 am
#8

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بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
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Beautiful, MashaAllah

JesusWasMuslim786 wrote on November 23, 2008 - 2:45 am
#9

Masha’ Allah, this …
Masha’ Allah, this video is like staring the liar in the face.

mlmbrowser wrote on November 23, 2008 - 2:45 am
#10

mashAllah brother …
mashAllah brother thank you for posting this video, i never seen such challange b4..the muslims have been promissed by Allah the lier will be cursed if they come and pray for that..but the christiana brothers afraid of doing it, because thier priests know that they lie to thier own people and missguiding them..may Allah bless his true religion (islam) and keep us on his right path..Ameen!!

sorany1 wrote on November 23, 2008 - 2:45 am
#11

Stop following a …
Stop following a paedophile man instead of Allah.

capone70 wrote on November 23, 2008 - 2:45 am
#12

“Stop following a …
“Stop following a man instead of Allah. ”
THAT SENTENCE CONTARDICS YOUR WHOLE IDEOLOGY ON CHRISTIANITY. YOUR ‘MAN’, I.E JESUS. HE IS GOD.U SAY WE FOLLOW A MAN WHEN HE SAID ALHAMDULILAHI-RABIL-A’LAMIIN. ‘ALL’ PRAISE BE TO ALLAH

OWNED BY YOUR SELF

IF YOU READ HOW THE BIBLE IS LITERALLY. THERE IS MORE EVIDENCE OF PURE MONOTHEISM THAN JESUS BEING GOD. WHY WOUDL A HOLY BOOK BE CLEAR ON WHO GOD IS. AGAIN I’D LIKE TO SAY, I KNOW CHRISTIANS, WHOM STUDY BIBLE ABUNDANTLY ALSO CLAIM JESUS IS NOT GOD

daboonster wrote on November 23, 2008 - 2:45 am
#13

then moses was a …
then moses was a pedophile if you follow the WHOLE BIBLE. but if you dont follow whole bible you are not a christian.

btwrefering about slaves. when in hebrew, since i know of hebrew. when they say “son of god” or “sons of god” is not literal. as some christians believe( believe it or notsome ‘christians’ believe jesus is not son of god) in those days it was not in CONTEXT (ryt?! ud know about context :) ) when translated hebrew to arabic. it becomes servants of God. hence slaves term is use.

daboonster wrote on November 23, 2008 - 2:45 am
#14

“Did Allah condemn …
“Did Allah condemn homosexuality…”
however lets say then. we can ume. in CONTEXT. in POETRY. it was reffering tat you cannot be gay. now whhere do you stand. can you not see it works both ways when people talk about bible then ou talk about CONTEXT?!. nevertheless it is comfirmed in authentic traditions many a times. so it is save to say homosexuality is haraam.

where in your bible does it forbid pedophilia. which in OT, talmud, moses and 3 year olds?!?

daboonster wrote on November 23, 2008 - 2:45 am
#15

“Yeah… like …
“Yeah… like Johnny Walker Lind who fought for the Taliban?..”
islam forbids. killing of innocence.
and if it comes to war. according to Islam. islam forbids killing, woman and children. and it is clear in the Quran. no matter how you try to deform it. you could, by getting only part of a sentence. but reading all you couldn’t

I could ask you why, does the bible allow killing of woman and children also. but i know what you would say. context. poetry

daboonster wrote on November 23, 2008 - 2:45 am
#16

lol. you have no …
lol. you have no basis on it. you just got screwed by basic muslims. you keep talking about ‘context’. i know christains whom believe Jesus is not Son of God because they analyze the bible in the original launguage. your questions are stupid
“gimme one verse to say jesus slayed non believer” how lame. it’s like saying. “gimme one verse where jesus put his hands on his head” then if we find it. you say , hey its a book of poetry,out context etc.

daboonster wrote on November 23, 2008 - 2:45 am
#17

They tricked …
They tricked someone somewhere.
Was it curse the one who is lying or curse me if I’m lying when they asked the question.

Why curse a liar? God is the judge and determiner of who He will curse. We do not tell God what to do. He is not a boy that we can command Him. Also, the hand of the Lord is not short, but why should we ask for one to be harmed. IT’S STUPID.

ABAisSCIENCE wrote on November 23, 2008 - 2:45 am
#18

What kind of …
What kind of rubbish debate is this? This guy is hanging on to the curse terminology like he’s some kind of linguist. This is not a religious debate but an English debate. Debate in Arabic y don’t U?

qleophathyr wrote on November 23, 2008 - 2:45 am
#19

the bible is racist …
the bible is racist its only for jews as jesus said:
‘i was sent to the lost sheep of isreal’
this excludes the rest of the world. dont get angry at me that what ure bible says.

bhamtopman wrote on November 23, 2008 - 2:45 am
#20

Christian has …
Christian has always lost Mubahalla, who ever invoked the curse has died before Muslims, famous mubahalla was between the Muslims and the Qadianees. There was also Mubahallah between Muslims and Christians and the christian priest died, I don’t remember the details.

ovaisreza wrote on November 23, 2008 - 2:45 am
#21

lol funny stuff.


lol funny stuff.

Who needs Smosh, when you can watch this?

Elvisdogg wrote on November 23, 2008 - 2:45 am
#22

u know u can …
u know u can convert to to b a second class jew? hows that a race? salam

traitor323 wrote on November 23, 2008 - 2:45 am
#23

it does, though. …
it does, though. Jews are a race.

rowsdowersavesus wrote on November 23, 2008 - 2:45 am
#24

THE BIBLE DOESNT …
THE BIBLE DOESNT MENTION THE RACE OF ANYONE- AND NOAH WAS DRUNK AND DIDNT HAVE ATHORITY TO ‘CURSE ANYONE! White folk used this to enslave Blacks.
Jesus Christ is God and the only savior to all them that trust in his BLOOD sacrifice. HE ROSE AGAIN!

gracebelieverz wrote on November 23, 2008 - 2:45 am
#25

ahhaha they no they …
ahhaha they no they are lying….

ServantOfTrueGod wrote on November 23, 2008 - 2:45 am
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